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Buyer Beware

By: JSkillsPublished: 10/14/2000
 
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Although I’m known as the "computer guy" in my circle of friends, I have recently been noticing the level of people’s surprise when I tell them I don’t yet own a digital camera. And my video camera is more than six years old. It’s almost on purpose. I know myself, and when I do end up making these kinds of purchases, I always end up getting a little carried away. I can’t go into a CompUSA without leaving several hundred dollars lighter.

After a good deal of research, I decided on a Sony product that actually serves both purposes – a digital camcorder and a digital camera for good quality still images. Following links from CNET for the best prices from their "recommended e-merchants", I ended up making the purchase online (like I do with everything I possibly can in life) at a placed called The Digital Dog. The price was close to $400 cheaper and it said the store had the unit and all the accessories in stock.

After making the online transaction this past Saturday (10/7), I was called back immediately by "Steve" the salesman. Steve wanted to verify my info, make sure I had everything I needed and attempt to hit me up for the classic "extended warranty" which is something no one should ever burn money on. I was too wise for that, so he told me I could call back during the week for tracking / shipping info.

"Could I speak to you Steve?", I asked.
"I’m sorry sir, I just work on weekends, but someone will be able to get you the info".

I hung up. "No way to check online?" I thought to myself, "Well that’s pretty weak ass". But I tried to focus on the fact that I was saving a lot of money with them.

I called Monday and was immediately put on hold. They didn’t have "musak", they had a recording of Jerry Seinfeld’s standup routine. I listened to Jerry for a half hour. It beat crappy tunes you usually get while on hold. In the middle of his bit about how the town of Massapequa is from the Indian word for "by the mall", the phone begins ringing and someone picks it up.

"Hello", he says, uninterested.
"Yes hello, I placed an order with you on Saturday and I’d like to check the status..."
"Ummmmm...", he managed. This was followed by silence.
"Hello? Excuse me? Are you still there?"
"Uh yeah yeah – hold on." Now he was annoyed. I waited.
"Ok. Do you have your order number?" he asked.
"Yes I do" finally happy to have something positive going on.
"Oh wait. The computer’s down. We lost power in the whole building" he now sounded exasperated.
"Ok. Well maybe I should call back later then?" I tried to be nice.
"If you want..." he muttered.
"Well thanks, you’ve been of enormous help to me today."

I hung up. I called back the next morning. I listened to another half hour of Seinfeld while on hold. During the part about not wanting the pilot on an airplane telling him that the plane is at 30,000 feet just the same as he isn’t going to knock on the cockpit door to inform the captain he’s going to eat his peanuts now, the routine stops and I hear the sound of a phone ringing. It’s a lady’s voice this time and she asks to take my name and phone number. This obviously will never do for an impatient and untrusting freak like myself, so I tell her "no, please put me through to customer service". She tells me she will. And back on hold I go for another 25 minutes. It’s now at the beginning of the Seinfeld routine and I’ve actually heard it all when the routine stops and someone picks up. In my excitement to actually be getting a person to talk to, I accidentally press the wrong button on my phone and hang up. I can be such a clumsy jackass sometimes.

So on top of being thoroughly frustrated, I’m starting to get the douche chills about this company. I decide to do some research on them in the newsgroups. My heart sank immediately as I came across so many negative experiences people had written about. Most described the similar experiences to what I had and went on to describe what else was going to happen to me. Things I might have in store for me were mysterious extra charges on my credit card, the order showing up incorrect or incomplete, and the order taking several months to arrive. Also described were the dealings with the various people who worked the phones – none of which were anything short of horrifically insulting. One guy is so pissed off, he even created a website about his experience at www.thedigitaldogsucks.homepage.com.

I knew I had made a terrible mistake. I was the same foolish teenager giving my money to a stranger on the streets of New York City in the hopes of getting a discount on a fake ID all over again. I had done so much research on the product itself, I simply trusted CNET when it came to recommending the place to buy it online.

After reading everyone else’s horror stories, I called back again on Tuesday. I was on hold for 40 minutes this time, but finally got through. I got "Chris" in customer service. He was pleasant and friendly. I gave him the order number and told him Steve said I could call and ask for the status. He said "Ok, hold please" to which I said "Oh no, please not hold again!". More Seinfeld. He came back in a minute or two and began telling me how Steve should have never told me to call since orders take "7-10 business days to be processed and approved". He told me his boss had Steve in the office right now and was "ripping him a new one" for telling me such misleading information. That was the final straw for me. The blatant lie about Steve couldn’t be true, since Steve told me he only worked weekends.

"I’d like to cancel my order".
Silence.
"Chris, I’d like to cancel my order."
"Why?" his tone was much different now.
"I just want to."
"Ok hold on while I get my manager."

I was on hold listening to the Seinfeld routine I now hated for another 25 minutes. It was incredible, like they were doing everything in their power to make me hang up in frustration. Finally, an extremely annoyed "Richard Lewis" the manager got on the phone. When I told him I wanted to cancel the order, he demanded to know why.

I stopped him right there and said "First of all, I am recording this conversation".
"Fine" he said, like he hears that from all of his customers all the time.
"But there's going to be a cancellation fee of 5%".
"No I don’t think so." I came back with firmly, "Your policy states it is for 'special orders' only and this is not one of them".
Silence.

Finally he gives me a cancellation number and hangs up on me rudely, as though the last thing I said to him was that I wanted to bugger his mother.

I call my credit card company and find out that they are showing the full charge on the card. I cannot dispute the charge until I actually receive the bill which is some more fun for me down the line.

On Wednesday, at 5:30 pm, I ordered the same product from Outpost.com and it arrived the next day at 10 am (no tax and free overnight shipping). Two accessories I had ordered were not in the package, but Outpost’s website clearly indicated they were on back order. I called Outpost and after five minutes on hold, spoke to a representative who promptly cancelled the back ordered items that I didn’t want to wait for.

The morale of this story? I don’t know. Maybe it's that Seinfeld is not funny after you listen to him several times? Maybe it’s simply that I'd love to prevent anyone from being an ass like me and going through an experience like this. Stick to the names you know when buying online. Hopefully I can save at least one person from ever doing business with that hellhole company.

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    go to a store (0 replies)
    started by shopspunk
    (01.09.2001 1:27:06 AM EST)

    don't buy clothing online either...
    fit
    fabric
    style
    workmanship
    the web.....sears/roebuck of the future

    i understand.

    digitaldogsucks (0 replies)
    started by Anonymous Goofball
    (11.21.2000 1:21:13 AM EST)

    Hi

    For one thing, "Richard Lewis" is really "Richard Alexander". Odds are, there is no person by the name of "Steve" working there either, as it is daily practice of all the company reps to give phony names. Ironically, is some cases, the same salesreps that screw customers usually have gotten screwed themselves by the company, as when they quit or get fired, they get screwed for their last paychecks. Please keep your info about the awareness of this scam company going, it really helps to those of us who have been burned.

    yeah man! i know what you mean! (0 replies)
    started by Anonymous Goofball
    (11.18.2000 0:49:46 AM EST)

    This one time, i mail ordered a dildo and it came without batteries, so i was like, holy shit! and rang them up

    "hello?"
    "Hey! my fucking dildo has no batteries!"

    Then he hung up on me! that fuck! so i rang again.

    "Oi! Don't fucking hang up you gay homosexual! i want batteries for my dildo! dildo!"
    "but dildo's dont have batteries mister"

    Then i got really pissed off.

    "i know! thats the problem! you fuck head!"

    Then i jumped in my truck which was still full of all my tools cause i'm a lumber jack (and i'm ok) and i hammered down to the store.

    "Hey you bastard! where is my dildo's batteries!?"

    Then i jumped up and kicked him in the nuts and took some batteries from his calculator.

    Whats the moral to this story? I can make up some bullshit nobody really cares story, and you have the time to read it. get a life.

    O.K. (0 replies)
    started by epiwsedis
    (11.16.2000 1:48:19 AM EST)

    Man, has this page got wind.

    Report them immediately! (0 replies)
    started by lelliott74
    (10.18.2000 5:36:41 PM EST)

    You really need to contact your local Attorney General and report them. The Attorney Generals office is there to help prevent and stop consumer fraud and that is what this is. First off, they CANNOT bill you for product they are not shipping to you, so they violated the law by charging you for something that was not ready to be shipped to you the same day they got their money! They have blatantly lied to about alot of things, including that they said it would be 7-10 days of processing when on their site it CLEARLY says "Please allow 3-5 business days to process your order", and that if you need it in less time you can call them and they will make arrangements to send it to you quicker. You were given the poorest customer service imaginable. Make them answer for this and help prevent them from doing it to others who are unsuspecting victims.

    By the way, I would also like to mention that I never would have purchased anything from them based on this statement alone: "In many cases, we will accept exchanges for defective merchandise within 14 days with no restocking fees. Certain merchandise is not valid for exchange because our distributor may not allow for defective merchandise to be returned. Since all items sold are guaranteed by their manufacturer, these select items will require you to send the merchandise back to the manufacturer for replacement or repair."

    What the heck is that? So they will gladly sell you the defective merchandise, but they will not exchange it for good merchandise? Can we be real! That's like buying a car and when it breaks down, the dealership telling you that you will have to call the car maker to get it fixed-they can't help you! Hello!??! Ever heard of the lemon law? Ever heard of CUSTOMER SERVICE!??!

    Anyway, report them for this, don't just take it sitting on hold...

    A most excellent rant... (0 replies)
    started by Sasksquatch
    (10.17.2000 10:12:27 PM EST)

    and a public service announcement/consumer report too.
    More please.

    I enjoyed reading this.... (0 replies)
    started by sweetiepeach
    (10.17.2000 8:59:54 PM EST)

    ..not only because there were humorous parts, but because can't we all relate to trying to get something accomplished by phone. Did you ever wonder how some of these customer service representatives (aka high school kids earning skateboard money) get their jobs? It is sometimes so frustrating talking to these people that you just give up and put whatever product you're trying to return in a hall closet somewhere because it's too damn much hassle trying to get it returned. Maybe that's their ultimate objective...frustrate you to the point of surrender. The unfortunate thing is, in this day and age of dual career families and the fast paced nature of society, purchasing things online is becoming more and more commonplace. I guess all we can do is do our research on the company you are buying from, and cross your fingers that whatever it is that you buy works so that you don't have to call those frustratingly incompetent customer service reps.

    ~SweetiePeach~

    I liked This JSkills (0 replies)
    started by RedNeckedTulsan
    (10.16.2000 5:34:55 PM EST)

    Firstly as i was told you have not truely surfed the net until you have bought something online and been screwed over.So welcome to the net:) Its happened to me too.
    Secondly i LOVED the commenst. Especially the ones from people with ADS(attention Deficit Syndrome).
    May i suggest your next rant be on the subject of assholes with ADS who want instant gratification even when its not appropriate? They piss me off and need a ranting at. Whats next with these ADS assholes? Condensed football games when we just see the final score and highlights? A good rant like this is worthy of reading and shortening it would just reduce its interest level. I now see why you did friend Mistik69 in a rant previously:)

    Wow. I've never had a problem. (0 replies)
    started by NakedCanuck
    (10.16.2000 1:43:11 PM EST)


    But then, people fear me. LOL Seriously, I think a lot can be gleened from this rant. But mostly, this is why Amazon.com is millions of dollars in debt and why quitting your job to start an internet company is not such a great idea.

    The Naked CanuckEverybody is somebody else’s weirdo.

    Thanks for the Tip (0 replies)
    started by Anonymous Goofball
    (10.16.2000 10:40:40 AM EST)

    I guess we should be wary of Cnet's recommended retailers list as well, huh?

    That's not what I wanted to hear (0 replies)
    started by spoiler
    (10.16.2000 8:55:55 AM EST)

    Oh shit, I'm waiting on an online order now....AAAHH, LOL, oh well, I know where the store is so it's not too far of a trek to drag my sniper gun and infrared goggles.

    Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, cuz you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

    Oh man (0 replies)
    started by obiwan
    (10.16.2000 8:41:15 AM EST)

    It does sound a fucking nightmare! I guess a lot has to change if on-line purchasing is to substitute the normal "touch it before buying it" store purchasing.

    E-chuta!

    Sheez (0 replies)
    started by alfspin
    (10.15.2000 11:34:50 PM EST)

    You are all a bunch of lazy asses! What's the big deal? Can't read?

    Alf is in Da' House!

    what.... (0 replies)
    started by mistik69
    (10.15.2000 4:56:43 PM EST)

    the fuck is this asshole rambling on about??

    Dude.... (0 replies)
    started by mizike
    (10.15.2000 1:41:32 AM EST)

    Ever heard of EDITING...you know...keeping it under three million fucking words?

    I think I'm gonna puke...

    well, mmm this sucks (0 replies)
    started by rocksays
    (10.14.2000 5:32:10 PM EST)

    I read the first paragraph and then stopped reading cos this is in two words... utter shit

    Thank You (0 replies)
    started by 3supersports
    (10.14.2000 11:12:47 AM EST)

    I have had a similar experience buying a digital camera and haven't bought anything online since.

    Reminds me of... (0 replies)
    started by oliverclozoff
    (10.14.2000 1:06:07 AM EST)


    ...the time I ordered a PC from CompUSA. The damned thing kept crashing, and the only way to bring it back up was to boot from the floppy and reload Windows.

    After the third or fourth time, I called to take them up on their onsite service they talked me into buying for an extra $40. They said they wouldn't send someone out just to reload Windows for me. I told them that that wasn't the problem; I already did that, but that wouldn't fix it.

    He said I could mail it to the repair center, at my expense, and they would fix it in 4-6 weeks. Or I could bring it in to the nearest store (100 miles one way). Guess what, Sparky? I don't think so!

    I said I wanted to return it, and asked him to give me an RA number. He said he couldn't. I asked to speak to someone who could. He said no one could.

    That's when I asked, "How 'bout if I just send it back freight collect and have my credit card company take if off my bill?"

    "You can't do that." he said.

    (Short pause) "What did you say?" I asked menacingly.

    (Long pause) "You can't do that?" he replied sheepishly.

    "Oh, yeah? Watch me!" (Click)

    About 20 minutes later, an adult called me and gave me an RA number.

    I suppose their stores are okay; at least you can return defective crap. But their mail-order business sucks ass!



    Take time to stop and smell the panties.

    THANXS (0 replies)  
    started by donut38
    (10.14.2000 0:28:53 AM EST)

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